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PostSubject: Liberals voice concerns about Obama   Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:35 pm

Liberals voice concerns about Obama


Liberals are growing increasingly nervous that President-elect Barack Obama seems to be stiffing them on Cabinet jobs and policy choices.
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Liberals are growing increasingly nervous – and some just flat-out angry – that President-elect Barack Obama seems to be stiffing them on Cabinet jobs and policy choices.

Obama has reversed pledges to immediately repeal tax cuts for the wealthy and take on Big Oil. He’s hedged his call for a quick drawdown in Iraq. And he’s stocking his White House with anything but stalwarts of the left.

Now some are shedding a reluctance to puncture the liberal euphoria at being rid of President George W. Bush to say, in effect, that the new boss looks like the old boss.

“He has confirmed what our suspicions were by surrounding himself with a centrist to right cabinet. But we do hope that before it's all over we can get at least one authentic progressive appointment,” said Tim Carpenter, national director of the Progressive Democrats of America.

OpenLeft blogger Chris Bowers went so far as to issue this plaintive plea: “Isn't there ever a point when we can get an actual Democratic administration?”
Even supporters make clear they’re on the lookout for backsliding. “There’s a concern that he keep his basic promises and people are going to watch him,” said Roger Hickey, a co-founder of Campaign for America’s Future.

Obama insists he hasn’t abandoned the goals that made him feel to some like a liberal savior. But the left’s bill of particulars against Obama is long, and growing.

Obama drew rousing applause at campaign events when he vowed to tax the windfall profits of oil companies. As president-elect, Obama says he won’t enact the tax.

Obama’s pledge to repeal the Bush tax cuts and redistribute that money to the middle class made him a hero among Democrats who said the cuts favored the wealthy. But now he’s struck a more cautious stance on rolling back tax cuts for people making over $250,000 a year, signaling he’ll merely let them expire as scheduled at the end of 2010.

Obama’s post-election rhetoric on Iraq and choices for national security team have some liberal Democrats even more perplexed. As a candidate, Obama defined and separated himself from his challengers by highlighting his opposition to the war in Iraq from the start. He promised to begin to end the war on his first day in office.

Now Obama’s says that on his first day in office he will begin to “design a plan for a responsible drawdown,” as he told NBC’s “Meet the Press” Sunday. Obama has also filled his national security positions with supporters of the Iraq war: Sen. Hillary Clinton, who voted to authorize force in Iraq, as his secretary of state; and President George W. Bush’s defense secretary, Robert Gates, continuing in the same role.

The central premise of the left’s criticism is direct – don’t bite the hand that feeds, Mr. President-elect. The Internet that helped him so much during the election is lighting up with irritation and critiques.

“There don't seem to be any liberals in Obama's cabinet,” writes John Aravosis, the editor of “What does all of this mean for Obama's policies, and just as important, Obama Supreme Court announcements?”

“Actually, it reminds me a bit of the campaign, at least the beginning and the middle, when the Obama campaign didn't seem particularly interested in reaching out to progressives,” Aravosis continues. “Once they realized that in order to win they needed to marshal everyone on their side, the reaching out began. I hope we're not seeing a similar ‘we can do it alone’ approach in the transition team.”

This isn’t the first liberal letdown over Obama, who promptly angered the left after winning the Democratic primary by announcing he backed a compromise that would allow warrantless wiretapping on U.S. soil to continue.

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PostSubject: Re: Liberals voice concerns about Obama   Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:37 pm

I have read this a few times...I just can't see what to bitch about just yet...

to me it's just Liberals liberally whining ...

As far as Gates...if this statement from his speech of last fall is true and heartfelt...
keeping him may very well be a 'progressive' choice

"In the speech, Gates told officers that in 42 years of service, he had learned two big things:
a sense of humility and an appreciation of limits. "Not every outrage, every act of aggression,
every crisis can or should elicit an American military response," he said, advising them to
"be modest about what military force can accomplish and what technology can accomplish."

( US News And World Report )

many reports and valid opinions say he did help put a damper on the insane "shock & awe " agenda


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PostSubject: Re: Liberals voice concerns about Obama   Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:58 pm

Rumsfeld was replaced by Robert Gates, whom, it seems, the media has, conveniently, all but forgotten. Robert Gates was CIA director during the elder President George Herbert Walker Bush's administration. Gates is also a former board member of defense contractor Scientific Applications International Group (SAIC), which was indicted on 10 felony counts in 1990 for fraud in it's management of a Superfund toxic cleanup site. SAIC pleaded guilty. From the SHAFT Rogues' Gallery: "In 1993, the Justice Department sued SAIC for civil fraud on an F15 fighter contract. In May 1995, SAIC settled a suit that charged it had lied about security system tests it conducted for a Treasury Department currency plant in Fort Worth, Texas. SAIC paid the government $125,000 to cover the cost of the investigation as part of that settlement."

Gates' experience at CIA dates back at least 36 years, to when he started a long career as an analyst for the CIA's Soviet Foriegn Policy branch, led by Ray McGovern. McGovern wrote a November 9, 2006 opinion piece of his own, entitled The Cheney-Gates Cabal, which is posted on, and is very informative. Gates eventually wound up mired ass-deep in the Iran-Contra scandal, and, although he steadfastly denied it, other CIA officials stated on the record that they had personally informed Gates, and that he was fully aware of later-convicted Oliver North's criminal activities in support of the Nicaraguan Contras, and of North's involvement in the illegal shipping of arms to Iran, and the diversion of Iranian arms profits to fund said Contras. Independent Counsel Lawrence Walsh later stated that Gates "denied recollection of facts 33 times" during his investigation. In 1991, when he was nominated to be CIA director, a record-setting total of 31 senators voted against his nomination.

Gates has a reputation for "cooking" intelligence to meet politicians' expectations, and so we come back, full circle, because, after all, isn't that the kind of stuff we all would like to see the federal investigation which is now idling away it's time on Lewis Libby investigating? Like, for instance, the "cooking" of intelligence on Iraqi WMDs which was reported by Ambassador Wilson, which is exactly what started this whole mess going in the first place?
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